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	<title>Comments on: Hypocritical, Much? Swimmer Admits To Breaking The Rules But Gets To Keep His Gold Medal (Yes, We&#8217;re Still Angry About Badminton)</title>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-83825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It just took time before we started thinking like Chinese. No solid foundation in ones life leads to no rules. How&#039;s the song go? &quot;Anything goes!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just took time before we started thinking like Chinese. No solid foundation in ones life leads to no rules. How&#8217;s the song go? &#8220;Anything goes!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Chubby Chinese Baby At The Olympics Is Delightful Beijing Cream</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-31636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Chubby Chinese Baby At The Olympics Is Delightful Beijing Cream]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] set aside all the controversy in swimming, badminton, fencing, boxing, gymnastics, cycling, more swimming, ping-pong, soccer, soccer again, and judo, among other events (off the field, there was also [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] set aside all the controversy in swimming, badminton, fencing, boxing, gymnastics, cycling, more swimming, ping-pong, soccer, soccer again, and judo, among other events (off the field, there was also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-31539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think no ones saying anything because they really do all do it. Like, disgustingly, peeing in the pool. Time to change the rules?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think no ones saying anything because they really do all do it. Like, disgustingly, peeing in the pool. Time to change the rules?</p>
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		<title>By: Meyakanor</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-30542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meyakanor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you call &#039;throwing&#039; badminton matches is cheating, and then so is doing more dolphin kicks more than allowed. We&#039;re talking about blatantly violating the rules to gain advantage here. 

I agree that what the audience feels or wants is irrelevant. Maybe all the athletes should be doping then to give the audience a better show? Would you then consider doping to be less of a &#039;cheating&#039; than using dolphin kick as well, since arguably, it would make the performance more impressive and enjoyable to the viewers? 

Now, mind you, I do not in any way support doping, and I understand that using extra illegal kick at the beginning should not be viewed the same way as using performance enhancing drugs. 

But calling throwing badminton matches more of a cheat than what van der Burgh did just PURELY because what he did would be considered &#039;doing your uttermost to win&#039; and providing entertainment to the audience would mean that you have to view using drugs in the same light as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you call &#8216;throwing&#8217; badminton matches is cheating, and then so is doing more dolphin kicks more than allowed. We&#8217;re talking about blatantly violating the rules to gain advantage here. </p>
<p>I agree that what the audience feels or wants is irrelevant. Maybe all the athletes should be doping then to give the audience a better show? Would you then consider doping to be less of a &#8216;cheating&#8217; than using dolphin kick as well, since arguably, it would make the performance more impressive and enjoyable to the viewers? </p>
<p>Now, mind you, I do not in any way support doping, and I understand that using extra illegal kick at the beginning should not be viewed the same way as using performance enhancing drugs. </p>
<p>But calling throwing badminton matches more of a cheat than what van der Burgh did just PURELY because what he did would be considered &#8216;doing your uttermost to win&#8217; and providing entertainment to the audience would mean that you have to view using drugs in the same light as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jozzer</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-30027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jozzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 05:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. The incidents are completely different. Mangling the rules in order to win is one thing but lamely throwing a match to &#039;conserve energy&#039; is showing contempt to the spectators.

If I&#039;d paid money to see world class athletes performing I would be so angry to see them show arrogance. I dare say they have a justified complaint in that the set up of the rounds and tournament do not provide an incentive to win but respect for the sport and crowd should be enough motivation to perform.

Maybe it&#039;s correct to say he should be disqualified but it has nothing to do with the disqualification of the badminton players and not much to do with hypocrisy either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. The incidents are completely different. Mangling the rules in order to win is one thing but lamely throwing a match to &#8216;conserve energy&#8217; is showing contempt to the spectators.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d paid money to see world class athletes performing I would be so angry to see them show arrogance. I dare say they have a justified complaint in that the set up of the rounds and tournament do not provide an incentive to win but respect for the sport and crowd should be enough motivation to perform.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s correct to say he should be disqualified but it has nothing to do with the disqualification of the badminton players and not much to do with hypocrisy either.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-29977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By &quot;I’m not sure we can call conserving energy in a game that means nothing to the players “cheating”&quot; I really mean a game where winning or losing doesn&#039;t affect the chances of the players moving on to the next round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;I’m not sure we can call conserving energy in a game that means nothing to the players “cheating”&#8221; I really mean a game where winning or losing doesn&#8217;t affect the chances of the players moving on to the next round.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-29976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheating is cheating regardless of the manner of how you cheat. And as many people have commented from the badminton incident, cheating is unsportsmanlike.

And just because someone else is cheating, does it justify cheating? Didn&#039;t the South Korean teams use that excuse during the Badminton competition and they still got booted?

Participation in the Olympics isn&#039;t about what the fans / viewers want. People compete in sports because they want to win. Just because a fan paid X amount of money is not enough reason to ask competitors to not think / play strategically to enhance the chances of winning.  I&#039;m not sure we can call conserving energy in a game that means nothing to the players &quot;cheating&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheating is cheating regardless of the manner of how you cheat. And as many people have commented from the badminton incident, cheating is unsportsmanlike.</p>
<p>And just because someone else is cheating, does it justify cheating? Didn&#8217;t the South Korean teams use that excuse during the Badminton competition and they still got booted?</p>
<p>Participation in the Olympics isn&#8217;t about what the fans / viewers want. People compete in sports because they want to win. Just because a fan paid X amount of money is not enough reason to ask competitors to not think / play strategically to enhance the chances of winning.  I&#8217;m not sure we can call conserving energy in a game that means nothing to the players &#8220;cheating&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it was not just the fact that they tried to lose but the manner in which they did it... Not only should they have been booted out, they should have been asked to repay all the costs of the ticket holders.

Imagine that you had paid several hundred pounds for a plane ticket, how ever much the hotel and tickets cost and then you saw that embarrassment of a game. Disgusting lack of respect for the supporters. 

I&#039;m also glad at least one of them had the good grace to retire form the sport at the end.

There is a huge difference between taking an extra kick doing your uttermost to win a race and looking like you frankly just couldn&#039;t be bothered being there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was not just the fact that they tried to lose but the manner in which they did it&#8230; Not only should they have been booted out, they should have been asked to repay all the costs of the ticket holders.</p>
<p>Imagine that you had paid several hundred pounds for a plane ticket, how ever much the hotel and tickets cost and then you saw that embarrassment of a game. Disgusting lack of respect for the supporters. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also glad at least one of them had the good grace to retire form the sport at the end.</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between taking an extra kick doing your uttermost to win a race and looking like you frankly just couldn&#8217;t be bothered being there.</p>
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		<title>By: Meyakanor</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/more-hypocrisy-swimmer-admits-to-breaking-the-rules-gets-to-keep-gold-medal/#comment-29872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meyakanor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think van der Burgh&#039;s medal should stand, and I am sure that he&#039;s not the only swimmers to do it anyway, just the only one courageous enough to admit to have done it. But then again, I&#039;m also of the opinion that the eight badminton players should not have been disqualified, so it could be just me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think van der Burgh&#8217;s medal should stand, and I am sure that he&#8217;s not the only swimmers to do it anyway, just the only one courageous enough to admit to have done it. But then again, I&#8217;m also of the opinion that the eight badminton players should not have been disqualified, so it could be just me&#8230;</p>
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