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	<title>Comments on: So Long, And Thanks For All The Bullshit: Baron Christopher Devonshire-Ellis Exits China</title>
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		<title>By: Would the real Chris Devonshire-Ellis please stand up</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-409539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Would the real Chris Devonshire-Ellis please stand up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2016 18:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] relationships and pull than I; I removed the post. With that, I had felt the issue was closed, but despite leaving China several years ago, apparently Chris did not. In his recent post (dated April 1, 2016), he mis-represents this post [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] relationships and pull than I; I removed the post. With that, I had felt the issue was closed, but despite leaving China several years ago, apparently Chris did not. In his recent post (dated April 1, 2016), he mis-represents this post [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A Guide To China&#039;s Blog Trolls - Chris Devonshire-Ellis - Official Site</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-405809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Guide To China&#039;s Blog Trolls - Chris Devonshire-Ellis - Official Site]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2016 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] moving on. Again, I&#8217;ve never met him, and he didn&#8217;t contact me for any verifications.  &#8220;So Long, and Thanks For All The Bullshit&#8221; &#8211; which stole a copyright image of me to illustrate the piece, was without doubt a nasty [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] moving on. Again, I&#8217;ve never met him, and he didn&#8217;t contact me for any verifications.  &#8220;So Long, and Thanks For All The Bullshit&#8221; &#8211; which stole a copyright image of me to illustrate the piece, was without doubt a nasty [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The troll on beijingcream.com has been identified &#171; Stuck in Beijing since 1980</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-355368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The troll on beijingcream.com has been identified &#171; Stuck in Beijing since 1980]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] it all here: The troll has left! And Find the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] it all here: The troll has left! And Find the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: India’s Rise Third Largest Economy Puts More pressure on China</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-270464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[India’s Rise Third Largest Economy Puts More pressure on China]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 16:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] which he tried to get the WSJ and NYT to republish:    before finally leaving China in ignominy  So Long, And Thanks For All The Bullshit: Baron Christopher Devonshire-Ellis Exits China &#124; Beijing C...  It looks like, now, CDE (Baron?) is trying to ham-fistedly stroke some Indian egos in an effort to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which he tried to get the WSJ and NYT to republish:    before finally leaving China in ignominy  So Long, And Thanks For All The Bullshit: Baron Christopher Devonshire-Ellis Exits China | Beijing C&#8230;  It looks like, now, CDE (Baron?) is trying to ham-fistedly stroke some Indian egos in an effort to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: China Business Briefs 10/12/13 &#124; China Stock Watch</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-241371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[China Business Briefs 10/12/13 &#124; China Stock Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Shira &amp; Associates Reports Strong Asia Growth &#124; China Briefing News **Featuring digital bogeyman, Chris Devonshire-Ellis** Dezan Shira &amp; Associates has just concluded its annual meetings, held [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Shira &amp; Associates Reports Strong Asia Growth | China Briefing News **Featuring digital bogeyman, Chris Devonshire-Ellis** Dezan Shira &amp; Associates has just concluded its annual meetings, held [...]</p>
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		<title>By: China Jim</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-214030</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[China Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The anonymous asking the real to justify themselves. There is a lot wrong with this type of blogging and the apparent mass acceptance of it. It is wrong, and probably evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anonymous asking the real to justify themselves. There is a lot wrong with this type of blogging and the apparent mass acceptance of it. It is wrong, and probably evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Chan</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-213872</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Chan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Truth: But where does he tell lies? As far as I can see he&#039;s British (note: that includes Scotland) is a Baron and his bio is on his company website which doesn&#039;t state anything like that you say. All the evidence you have is you saying he tells lies, I can&#039;t see anywhere that he did:  http://www.dezshira.com/personnel/chris-devonshire-ellis.html  
Also for the China interview you keep refering too- there&#039;s two schools of thought on that. Or are you suggesting that the Chinese Government didn&#039;t want to cover their mistake and didn&#039;t themselves told a lie just because Chris actually reported what was really said and they realised that had been a big mistake? You think the Chinese Government don&#039;t lie? And that Chris has an different story so you automatically believe the Chinese Government? 
And none of this has anything with do with your sickening suggestions he has a stroke or commits suicide. There&#039;s no benefit of the doubt from you, just mixed up facts and bullshit assumptions for the sake of it and harrassing this guy.Now THAT&#039;s your truth, isn&#039;t it. If it wasn&#039;t - why do you always post under fake identities? Post who you REALLY are so Chris can sue you if he wants. But thats what you don&#039;t want isn&#039;t it? Fake coward trolls that&#039;s what YOU are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Truth: But where does he tell lies? As far as I can see he&#8217;s British (note: that includes Scotland) is a Baron and his bio is on his company website which doesn&#8217;t state anything like that you say. All the evidence you have is you saying he tells lies, I can&#8217;t see anywhere that he did:  <a href="http://www.dezshira.com/personnel/chris-devonshire-ellis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dezshira.com/personnel/chris-devonshire-ellis.html</a><br />
Also for the China interview you keep refering too- there&#8217;s two schools of thought on that. Or are you suggesting that the Chinese Government didn&#8217;t want to cover their mistake and didn&#8217;t themselves told a lie just because Chris actually reported what was really said and they realised that had been a big mistake? You think the Chinese Government don&#8217;t lie? And that Chris has an different story so you automatically believe the Chinese Government?<br />
And none of this has anything with do with your sickening suggestions he has a stroke or commits suicide. There&#8217;s no benefit of the doubt from you, just mixed up facts and bullshit assumptions for the sake of it and harrassing this guy.Now THAT&#8217;s your truth, isn&#8217;t it. If it wasn&#8217;t &#8211; why do you always post under fake identities? Post who you REALLY are so Chris can sue you if he wants. But thats what you don&#8217;t want isn&#8217;t it? Fake coward trolls that&#8217;s what YOU are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Chan</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-213867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Chan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see you&#039;ve linked your own site and comemnts updates FOUR times to this harrassment. In one you refer to the harrassment of CDE as &quot;fun&quot;. Maybe the likes of anonymous &quot;RFH&quot;, &quot;Beiwatch&quot;, &quot;Creme de la Creme&quot; and &quot;Anthony Tao, so-styled &quot;General&quot; should read Bel Mooney&#039;s comments at the end of this article about the impact your trash has on innocent victims:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245727/Mel-Greig-Tears-Australian-DJ-hoaxers-public-time-suicide-nurse-Kate-hospital.html
You people disgust most of us in China. This entire article and your constant harping about it is disgusting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you&#8217;ve linked your own site and comemnts updates FOUR times to this harrassment. In one you refer to the harrassment of CDE as &#8220;fun&#8221;. Maybe the likes of anonymous &#8220;RFH&#8221;, &#8220;Beiwatch&#8221;, &#8220;Creme de la Creme&#8221; and &#8220;Anthony Tao, so-styled &#8220;General&#8221; should read Bel Mooney&#8217;s comments at the end of this article about the impact your trash has on innocent victims:  <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245727/Mel-Greig-Tears-Australian-DJ-hoaxers-public-time-suicide-nurse-Kate-hospital.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245727/Mel-Greig-Tears-Australian-DJ-hoaxers-public-time-suicide-nurse-Kate-hospital.html</a><br />
You people disgust most of us in China. This entire article and your constant harping about it is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-153168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well only if he STOPS telling lies.
He is only a Baron, by buying the title.
He is not scottish.
He has no lands in scotland.
He has no english law degree.
He never went to universtiy only college.
His full name Chris Antony Bernard Ellis is real.
So if the above are true,which they are, why would he want to lie about them ?
Well we all know the answer- To impress people.
Perhaps he is ashamed of himself and has to invent an alta-ego.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well only if he STOPS telling lies.<br />
He is only a Baron, by buying the title.<br />
He is not scottish.<br />
He has no lands in scotland.<br />
He has no english law degree.<br />
He never went to universtiy only college.<br />
His full name Chris Antony Bernard Ellis is real.<br />
So if the above are true,which they are, why would he want to lie about them ?<br />
Well we all know the answer- To impress people.<br />
Perhaps he is ashamed of himself and has to invent an alta-ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagermeister</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-141479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jagermeister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 05:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For fucks sake will someone leave this poor fucking guy alone for a minute? At least he&#039;s trying to do something useful not like you repetitive nasty cretins going on and on about him everywhere. Talk about a big time online stitch up. Christ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For fucks sake will someone leave this poor fucking guy alone for a minute? At least he&#8217;s trying to do something useful not like you repetitive nasty cretins going on and on about him everywhere. Talk about a big time online stitch up. Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Hill. As in "The"</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-138651</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hill. As in "The"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let no-one be any illusions what all this is about - a concerted attack on a well known individual who has on the face of it, actually done nothing wrong, except develop a business over 20 years that remains the benchmark to reach. It&#039;s no coincidence that this article has appeared and it is not what it appears to be. 
1) Consider this, of the comments above, most are libelous, and concentrated from individuals well known in China for constantly attacking our CDE. These include FOARP, Gilman Grundy, Richard Burger (just above) Elliott Ng and others. 
2) Consider this: this article is specfically SEO optimised to appear high on search rankings (as are FOARPs) and appear high in google searches for CDE&#039;s name. 
3) And finally, consider this: shortly after an article appeared online which linked me to CDE in a co-written piece, I received an email from anonymous@hoi-polloi.org 
It read &quot;I suggest you to do a full Google search of Chris Devonshire Ellis before you continue publicly linking yourself with him.&quot; 
Way to go guys. I&#039;m not the only one either to have rceived such messages, my good friend Malcolm Riddell of the China Observer blog received one worded in similar from Elliott Ng, the CEO of Google China, who evidently forgot to mask his identity. 
This entire article is based on defamation, lies, and the concerted attempts by a select few to make CDE appear bad. Too bad the corporate world doesn&#039;t agree. As for the likes of Grundy, Burger, McLaughlin, Dan Harris and the rest of you, I rather suspect you&#039;ve damaged yourself by being part of this trash in ways you don&#039;t even realize. You are all persona non-grata in China&#039;s corporate circles, and if anyone finds out who is really behind all this (Ed Lehman anyone?) then you&#039;ll see self appointed &quot;Generals&quot; like Anthony Tao and the cowardly anonymous author of this very article, known only as &quot;RFH&quot; squealing like pigs when their luck and ability to disseminate this flith eventually runs out. Which I can assure you it most certainly will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let no-one be any illusions what all this is about &#8211; a concerted attack on a well known individual who has on the face of it, actually done nothing wrong, except develop a business over 20 years that remains the benchmark to reach. It&#8217;s no coincidence that this article has appeared and it is not what it appears to be.<br />
1) Consider this, of the comments above, most are libelous, and concentrated from individuals well known in China for constantly attacking our CDE. These include FOARP, Gilman Grundy, Richard Burger (just above) Elliott Ng and others.<br />
2) Consider this: this article is specfically SEO optimised to appear high on search rankings (as are FOARPs) and appear high in google searches for CDE&#8217;s name.<br />
3) And finally, consider this: shortly after an article appeared online which linked me to CDE in a co-written piece, I received an email from <a href="mailto:anonymous@hoi-polloi.org">anonymous@hoi-polloi.org</a><br />
It read &#8220;I suggest you to do a full Google search of Chris Devonshire Ellis before you continue publicly linking yourself with him.&#8221;<br />
Way to go guys. I&#8217;m not the only one either to have rceived such messages, my good friend Malcolm Riddell of the China Observer blog received one worded in similar from Elliott Ng, the CEO of Google China, who evidently forgot to mask his identity.<br />
This entire article is based on defamation, lies, and the concerted attempts by a select few to make CDE appear bad. Too bad the corporate world doesn&#8217;t agree. As for the likes of Grundy, Burger, McLaughlin, Dan Harris and the rest of you, I rather suspect you&#8217;ve damaged yourself by being part of this trash in ways you don&#8217;t even realize. You are all persona non-grata in China&#8217;s corporate circles, and if anyone finds out who is really behind all this (Ed Lehman anyone?) then you&#8217;ll see self appointed &#8220;Generals&#8221; like Anthony Tao and the cowardly anonymous author of this very article, known only as &#8220;RFH&#8221; squealing like pigs when their luck and ability to disseminate this flith eventually runs out. Which I can assure you it most certainly will.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Palmer</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-138613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duncan Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are such assholes. The usual China Law Blog anonymous catamites doing Dan Harris&#039;s nasty online work dissing his competitors. 

For those reading this let&#039;s just suggest that the REAL story behind Chris Devonshire-Ellis - and just the last week in fact - can be found here:  http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2012/11/14/dezan-shira-associates-celebrates-20-years-in-china-releases-commemorative-string-quartet.html

But of course success like that makes you all jealous vindictive fucks don&#039;t it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are such assholes. The usual China Law Blog anonymous catamites doing Dan Harris&#8217;s nasty online work dissing his competitors. </p>
<p>For those reading this let&#8217;s just suggest that the REAL story behind Chris Devonshire-Ellis &#8211; and just the last week in fact &#8211; can be found here:  <a href="http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2012/11/14/dezan-shira-associates-celebrates-20-years-in-china-releases-commemorative-string-quartet.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2012/11/14/dezan-shira-associates-celebrates-20-years-in-china-releases-commemorative-string-quartet.html</a></p>
<p>But of course success like that makes you all jealous vindictive fucks don&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Burger</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-138235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Burger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t you think that for the good of humanity you should close this thread?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you think that for the good of humanity you should close this thread?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheung Wan</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-138223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheung Wan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blogs &amp; Peadophiles: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234615/MoS-reporter-secret-paedophile-pay-MI5-Not-really-ludicrous-claims-web-eloquent-argument-state-control-newspapers.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs &amp; Peadophiles: <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234615/MoS-reporter-secret-paedophile-pay-MI5-Not-really-ludicrous-claims-web-eloquent-argument-state-control-newspapers.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234615/MoS-reporter-secret-paedophile-pay-MI5-Not-really-ludicrous-claims-web-eloquent-argument-state-control-newspapers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mopedchi</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-bullshit-baron-christopher-devonshire-ellis-exits-china/#comment-120836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mopedchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, how many sock puppets can one man have?! There&#039;s over a dozen just in this thread... crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, how many sock puppets can one man have?! There&#8217;s over a dozen just in this thread&#8230; crazy.</p>
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