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	<title>Comments on: Accidents Galore: A Roundup Of Golden Week Traffic Mishaps</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; The Situation Is Excellent: The Week That Was At Beijing Cream Beijing Cream</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/10/accidents-galore-a-roundup-of-golden-week-traffic-mishaps/#comment-94545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; The Situation Is Excellent: The Week That Was At Beijing Cream Beijing Cream]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] compiled videos of traffic accidents during Golden Week, as well as videos of pole dancing from the Guangzhou Sex Culture Festival. We [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Gay_Chevara</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/10/accidents-galore-a-roundup-of-golden-week-traffic-mishaps/#comment-69624</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 10:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As other people have said, these figures cannot be true.  I have seen two accidents in one day, a normal day, in Shanghai so there must be much more than 794 fatalities for National Day last week.

It never ceases to amaze me how selfishly people drive here.  They drive the way they move around on the subway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As other people have said, these figures cannot be true.  I have seen two accidents in one day, a normal day, in Shanghai so there must be much more than 794 fatalities for National Day last week.</p>
<p>It never ceases to amaze me how selfishly people drive here.  They drive the way they move around on the subway.</p>
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		<title>By: snoopfrog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 06:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the greatest cause of the crashes that i saw on my shangha-rizhao-shanghai drive cum video game adventure was actually the traffic jams (mostly caused by the fact that the elimination of toll fees for that week combined with the fact they still allowed trucks during the day).  As soon as people saw 50 m in front of them, speeds were up to 80-100 km / h with 2-3 meters in between cars.  on sep 30 when i finally got over the sutong bridge after a 9 hour epic drive (if you can call 9 km/h driving), the most dangerous thing was not crashing when traffic slowed again whilst being extremely tired.

also, another interesting fact is that the average direct economic loss per each accident that had casualties was USD970.... makes little sense (even a QQ costs more than that).  i would expect a much higher cost of damage per fatal accident (also this conveniently obscures the direct cost of a fatality to the surviving family)

in any case we will just assume that this is either a mistake by the journalist or that we live in one of the world&#039;s safest places (which is it is for crime) for road transport....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the greatest cause of the crashes that i saw on my shangha-rizhao-shanghai drive cum video game adventure was actually the traffic jams (mostly caused by the fact that the elimination of toll fees for that week combined with the fact they still allowed trucks during the day).  As soon as people saw 50 m in front of them, speeds were up to 80-100 km / h with 2-3 meters in between cars.  on sep 30 when i finally got over the sutong bridge after a 9 hour epic drive (if you can call 9 km/h driving), the most dangerous thing was not crashing when traffic slowed again whilst being extremely tired.</p>
<p>also, another interesting fact is that the average direct economic loss per each accident that had casualties was USD970&#8230;. makes little sense (even a QQ costs more than that).  i would expect a much higher cost of damage per fatal accident (also this conveniently obscures the direct cost of a fatality to the surviving family)</p>
<p>in any case we will just assume that this is either a mistake by the journalist or that we live in one of the world&#8217;s safest places (which is it is for crime) for road transport&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bert</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course these stats are fake. China once reported a 5000 lb hog back in the 1950&#039;s and wheat so thick and hardy that it could support children walking on it. Give me a break! This country never changes.

 The ONLY way they will become better drivers is if the police enforce the laws. ha ha! Until then it every man from himself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course these stats are fake. China once reported a 5000 lb hog back in the 1950&#8242;s and wheat so thick and hardy that it could support children walking on it. Give me a break! This country never changes.</p>
<p> The ONLY way they will become better drivers is if the police enforce the laws. ha ha! Until then it every man from himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff P</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/10/accidents-galore-a-roundup-of-golden-week-traffic-mishaps/#comment-69296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The governments&#039; reported figures are almost definitely false, as snoopfrog astutely points out.

If there was in fact a reduction in traffic deaths over last year (which is unlikely) the reason could only be that you are much less likely to die in a traffic accident when travelling at 10 km/h due to the insane volume of traffic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The governments&#8217; reported figures are almost definitely false, as snoopfrog astutely points out.</p>
<p>If there was in fact a reduction in traffic deaths over last year (which is unlikely) the reason could only be that you are much less likely to die in a traffic accident when travelling at 10 km/h due to the insane volume of traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: snoopfrog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snoopfrog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this figure accurate?  i know 794 deaths sounds a lot and it is of course a tragedy but it seems like a very low number.  in 2009 the last reported figures for road fatalities countrywide were 68000.  Many experts voiced concerns this was way under-reported.  And this averaged to 1307 deaths a week.  now given golden week&#039;s chaos, we would expect it to be an above average week.  more than that i have driven for a few years in china and last year and this driven shanghai to rizhao and back, and i can tell you i have never seen more road accidents than this holiday.  definitely more than last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this figure accurate?  i know 794 deaths sounds a lot and it is of course a tragedy but it seems like a very low number.  in 2009 the last reported figures for road fatalities countrywide were 68000.  Many experts voiced concerns this was way under-reported.  And this averaged to 1307 deaths a week.  now given golden week&#8217;s chaos, we would expect it to be an above average week.  more than that i have driven for a few years in china and last year and this driven shanghai to rizhao and back, and i can tell you i have never seen more road accidents than this holiday.  definitely more than last year.</p>
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