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		<title>By: P.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[屁!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>屁!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does the P. stand for?  C&#039;mon, tell us!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does the P. stand for?  C&#8217;mon, tell us!</p>
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		<title>By: Re: I sat</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Re: I sat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t have killed to put that in the original article. Usually that&#039;s part of the story&#039;s arc. Without that info it&#039;s too negative an article. Happy New Year to you too, a year without plumbing issues hopefully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t have killed to put that in the original article. Usually that&#8217;s part of the story&#8217;s arc. Without that info it&#8217;s too negative an article. Happy New Year to you too, a year without plumbing issues hopefully.</p>
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		<title>By: P.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“We only know what the author gives us.” 

Exactly. Judging from the story, he came off as a nitwit. However, now that the author has responded and shown himself to be a stand-up guy, a guy who clearly doesn’t resemble the character depicted in the story, I walk back my criticisms—not that author requires my validation, obviously. 

But I still stand by my assertion that we’ll all ambassadors, as high-minded and pretentious as they may sound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We only know what the author gives us.” </p>
<p>Exactly. Judging from the story, he came off as a nitwit. However, now that the author has responded and shown himself to be a stand-up guy, a guy who clearly doesn’t resemble the character depicted in the story, I walk back my criticisms—not that author requires my validation, obviously. </p>
<p>But I still stand by my assertion that we’ll all ambassadors, as high-minded and pretentious as they may sound.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sigh, another knucklehead. Thanks for confirming your own bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh, another knucklehead. Thanks for confirming your own bias.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I regretted the &#039;not appropriate&#039;.  I don&#039;t know why I wrote that.

What I wanted to say is, pls save the holier-than-thou attitude.  Its a freaking story.  You (P, not Jonathan) look like a total noob with your &#039;oh, we are all cultural ambassadors, if the Chinese are bigots towards foreigners its all the fault of people like you&#039;.

We only know what the writer gives us.  Maybe he was or is a total prick, I don&#039;t know him from Adam.  But on the other hand maybe not.  The problem with his washer would be the landlord&#039;s problem, why is the landlord not the asshole here?

Its just so stereotypical, oh, you are the bad kind of lao wai who gives the rest of us a bad name. And thats a very bs argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I regretted the &#8216;not appropriate&#8217;.  I don&#8217;t know why I wrote that.</p>
<p>What I wanted to say is, pls save the holier-than-thou attitude.  Its a freaking story.  You (P, not Jonathan) look like a total noob with your &#8216;oh, we are all cultural ambassadors, if the Chinese are bigots towards foreigners its all the fault of people like you&#8217;.</p>
<p>We only know what the writer gives us.  Maybe he was or is a total prick, I don&#8217;t know him from Adam.  But on the other hand maybe not.  The problem with his washer would be the landlord&#8217;s problem, why is the landlord not the asshole here?</p>
<p>Its just so stereotypical, oh, you are the bad kind of lao wai who gives the rest of us a bad name. And thats a very bs argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not appropriate?  Actually, I would normally agree with what P. said 100% had he not written about the wrong guy.

Justin is the last person I would call a &quot;halfwit&quot; or &quot;asshole&quot; expat.  He was just exaggerating a humorous anecdote for the entertainment value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not appropriate?  Actually, I would normally agree with what P. said 100% had he not written about the wrong guy.</p>
<p>Justin is the last person I would call a &#8220;halfwit&#8221; or &#8220;asshole&#8221; expat.  He was just exaggerating a humorous anecdote for the entertainment value.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, people can&#039;t we just get along? I appreciate the comments, good, bad and otherwise, and I admit I have my full shaire of shortcomings, too many to mention, but &quot;smug bastard&quot; and walking out on meals or abusing my foreigner status to get over is  not in my play book. This was a sincere, perhaps poorly wrtitten attempt about one Xmas in China and how despite cultural and plumbing problems it turned out to be very special.
That&#039;s my story and Im sticking to it. BTW, the pissed off neighbor and I are now on good speaking terms and I have sincerely apologized for my insults. She kindly accepted my apology, the washing machine works and all is well. Silent nights,  holy nights.Thanks for reading and Happy New Year,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, people can&#8217;t we just get along? I appreciate the comments, good, bad and otherwise, and I admit I have my full shaire of shortcomings, too many to mention, but &#8220;smug bastard&#8221; and walking out on meals or abusing my foreigner status to get over is  not in my play book. This was a sincere, perhaps poorly wrtitten attempt about one Xmas in China and how despite cultural and plumbing problems it turned out to be very special.<br />
That&#8217;s my story and Im sticking to it. BTW, the pissed off neighbor and I are now on good speaking terms and I have sincerely apologized for my insults. She kindly accepted my apology, the washing machine works and all is well. Silent nights,  holy nights.Thanks for reading and Happy New Year,</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 09:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez get over yourself. Your comments are not appropriate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez get over yourself. Your comments are not appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215308</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 07:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, yeah, but &quot;I curse you for eight generations&quot; was funny.  Admit it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, yeah, but &#8220;I curse you for eight generations&#8221; was funny.  Admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Re: I sat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Re: I sat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep, this definitely was the worst Christmas story so far on here. A real downer, like a big turd on the otherwise innocent little stories posted here. It&#039;s not just the cursing and insulting, or the walking around like a smug bastard because you happen to know someone up high (to be fair, that is actually pretty native but not something you want to live by, now do you?). It is the audacity to do all this and then to post this as if it were some sort of achievement. Achievement unlocked! 50G - Typical smug laowai!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, this definitely was the worst Christmas story so far on here. A real downer, like a big turd on the otherwise innocent little stories posted here. It&#8217;s not just the cursing and insulting, or the walking around like a smug bastard because you happen to know someone up high (to be fair, that is actually pretty native but not something you want to live by, now do you?). It is the audacity to do all this and then to post this as if it were some sort of achievement. Achievement unlocked! 50G &#8211; Typical smug laowai!</p>
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		<title>By: Diarrhea Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diarrhea Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 03:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a rebuttal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: P.</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2012/12/the-magi-of-shenzhen-an-expat-christmas-no-6/#comment-215283</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the risk of sounding naïve—and at the risk of deviating from my criticisms of the above essay—we are all guests in China. And because the country is still adjusting to this influx of outsiders after generations of seclusion, that makes us all informal foreign ambassadors operating during a super-sensitive period of China’s development in which the smallest details can sway public opinion against the Outsiders.

That doesn’t mean that we’re obligated to maintain a sense of angelic innocence for time eternal, but it does mean that we should approach problems calmly and rationally and take the upper hand in this ongoing delicate ballet. 

Sometimes that means falling on your sword while thinking about the long-term picture—a China that is less hostile to foreigners. 

Most expats, I assume, are aware of how easily won-over most folks can be. How many times, for example, have we shared a drink with an old 哥们 who says something like, “You’re American? Great! I met an American once and he was very good. I like Americans.”

“You’re from Germany? Germany is very good! I met a German once and he was good at drinking. I like Germans.” 

Simplified logic, to be sure, but that’s how many folks think—and this includes landlords and everyone else, from restaurant workers to cops. 

I&#039;ve also met the same amount of people who can&#039;t get over just one negative interaction that they&#039;ve had with a foreign national—Russian, French, Nigerian, whoever—after years and years.

It just takes one interaction to cement a stereotype—or as Chairman Mao would say, “one spark to start a prairie fire.” 

On an anecdotal level, I’ve dealt with innumerable problems with landlords over the years precisely because of people like the author: they don’t rent apartments to foreigners because of past problems, for example, or they demand extra service fees because they don’t want to deal with the shit that trickles down. 

In this case, literally, because the author didn’t pick up on PRC 101 on his first day in the country—paper goes in the trash. Everyone knows that. Never met anyone who didn’t. 

So now, this woman probably has a major hate-on for foreigners and spreads the poison at any chance that she gets. I’ve seen it before and it will keep happening with every act of obnoxious, entitled behavior: Whether it be navigating a communication mishap with curses or skipping out on a restaurant bill, the irresponsibility leads to a hardening of anti-foreigner sentiment over time and leads to more pervasive and accepted discrimination. 

All of that being said, when I read personal essays penned by halfwits gloating about their obnoxious behavior, I can’t help but call them out. Sorry. But these are the assholes who make China a worse-off place for everyone—fellow expats and locals alike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding naïve—and at the risk of deviating from my criticisms of the above essay—we are all guests in China. And because the country is still adjusting to this influx of outsiders after generations of seclusion, that makes us all informal foreign ambassadors operating during a super-sensitive period of China’s development in which the smallest details can sway public opinion against the Outsiders.</p>
<p>That doesn’t mean that we’re obligated to maintain a sense of angelic innocence for time eternal, but it does mean that we should approach problems calmly and rationally and take the upper hand in this ongoing delicate ballet. </p>
<p>Sometimes that means falling on your sword while thinking about the long-term picture—a China that is less hostile to foreigners. </p>
<p>Most expats, I assume, are aware of how easily won-over most folks can be. How many times, for example, have we shared a drink with an old 哥们 who says something like, “You’re American? Great! I met an American once and he was very good. I like Americans.”</p>
<p>“You’re from Germany? Germany is very good! I met a German once and he was good at drinking. I like Germans.” </p>
<p>Simplified logic, to be sure, but that’s how many folks think—and this includes landlords and everyone else, from restaurant workers to cops. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also met the same amount of people who can&#8217;t get over just one negative interaction that they&#8217;ve had with a foreign national—Russian, French, Nigerian, whoever—after years and years.</p>
<p>It just takes one interaction to cement a stereotype—or as Chairman Mao would say, “one spark to start a prairie fire.” </p>
<p>On an anecdotal level, I’ve dealt with innumerable problems with landlords over the years precisely because of people like the author: they don’t rent apartments to foreigners because of past problems, for example, or they demand extra service fees because they don’t want to deal with the shit that trickles down. </p>
<p>In this case, literally, because the author didn’t pick up on PRC 101 on his first day in the country—paper goes in the trash. Everyone knows that. Never met anyone who didn’t. </p>
<p>So now, this woman probably has a major hate-on for foreigners and spreads the poison at any chance that she gets. I’ve seen it before and it will keep happening with every act of obnoxious, entitled behavior: Whether it be navigating a communication mishap with curses or skipping out on a restaurant bill, the irresponsibility leads to a hardening of anti-foreigner sentiment over time and leads to more pervasive and accepted discrimination. </p>
<p>All of that being said, when I read personal essays penned by halfwits gloating about their obnoxious behavior, I can’t help but call them out. Sorry. But these are the assholes who make China a worse-off place for everyone—fellow expats and locals alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a wee bit harsh there Mr.P.   I kinda liked this story.  It was worthy of several giggles and smirks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a wee bit harsh there Mr.P.   I kinda liked this story.  It was worthy of several giggles and smirks.</p>
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		<title>By: P.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cursing out your landlord (and referring to her as a bitch), chuckling while an esteemed composer fixes your plumbing—an inability to speak Chinese while expecting solutions to fall into your lap. You sound like the typical smug expat asshole. Not witty or well-written, just a prick with no filter and an inability to self-edit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cursing out your landlord (and referring to her as a bitch), chuckling while an esteemed composer fixes your plumbing—an inability to speak Chinese while expecting solutions to fall into your lap. You sound like the typical smug expat asshole. Not witty or well-written, just a prick with no filter and an inability to self-edit.</p>
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