Comments on: Google Stops Notifying Users In China Who Search Sensitive Terms, And This Is Supposed To Matter Because?

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By: Total Eclipse of the Twat

Total Eclipse of the Twat — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:04:10 +0000

Baidu’s search engine is utterly useless so I for one would welcome a return, so that we can actually find stuff without turning on a VPN. Also, I totally agree with RhZ, Baidu’s boss is an absolute “Prussian-born German philosopher most famous for Critique of Pure Reason”, showing off his dad’s expensive car while barely being able to drive stick.

By: RhZ

RhZ — Sun, 06 Jan 2013 03:18:29 +0000

I am/was proud of google for taking a stand. The demands of the censors never end, as we just saw from Southern Weekend. Plus they were targeted for corporate espionage by the government.

Yahoo didn’t leave and even handed over data used to jail a dissident, and look how they are treated. Yeah the search page opens but more often then not the linkouts are blocked so you have to manually extract the address you are trying to go to. Or, the second page of search will be blocked.

As far as business goes, I don’t know all the details but I do know google makes a lot of money from its adwords program in China. Baidu by comparison is a total joke. So leaving was probably not a business decision.

The boss of Baidu, Robin whatever, did make a comment like, ‘oh they didn’t know how to do business in China’ when they left. Man that made me mad, what a wanker. Dude is apparently proud of all the CCP cock he smokes.

By: Jesse Covner

Jesse Covner — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:02:24 +0000

“Many Chinese netizens believe — rightfully, in my opinion — that Google never should have left the mainland in 2010 if it sought to make an actual difference in its professed fight against Internet censorship. ”

As an expat netizen, I agree that Google should not have left if it really sought to make an actual difference.

By: A

Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:05:35 +0000

I want Google to come back to China so my Gmail service won’t be so spotty without a VPN.

By: James Griffiths

James Griffiths — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:29:16 +0000

While I agree that Google’s much-vaunted withdrawal from the Chinese market was predicated more on business concerns than censorship (and, let’s be honest here, it is incredibly hard for foreign firms to compete with domestic/state-backed firms due to the playing field being anything but level), I think you’re wrong to dismiss this news as unimportant.

Google’s openness about when it complies with censorship or DMCA takedown requests is something that should be admired and emulated. As the old saying goes, if censorship works, you don’t know you’re being censored.

I don’t think this feature would have kept Google from being approved to re-enter the Chinese market, Google’s highlighting of when search terms were ‘sensitive’ is broadly similar, from a technological standpoint, to Weibo telling you that a certain search query is banned.

The more people are aware of being censored (and this is true outside of China as well, many people are wholly ignorant of how much material is removed because of local restrictions on speech – eg Nazi crap in France and Germany – or copyright law – eg DMCA and similar laws) the better. People will not push for change when they don’t realise they have something to push against.

You are completely correct that Google is a company and not some moral anti-censorship campaigner, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be disappointed that they’ve removed one of the best features at, in your words, “chipping away at nefarious restrictions”.