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	<title>Comments on: Mo Yan Grants First Interview Since Winning Nobel Prize, Rebukes Ai Weiwei, Makes Very Interesting Cultural Revolution Comparison</title>
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		<title>By: 游侠</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[游侠]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 05:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no love for the See-See-Pee, and think that DVD is an arrogant douche-box, but Jonathan clearly won here. Jonathan I don&#039;t think you are a wumao, but if you are, at least you&#039;re the kind I could have a beer with :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no love for the See-See-Pee, and think that DVD is an arrogant douche-box, but Jonathan clearly won here. Jonathan I don&#8217;t think you are a wumao, but if you are, at least you&#8217;re the kind I could have a beer with <img src="http://beijingcream.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuck off, dickweed.  If enough people tell you how incredibly stupid you are, then maybe one day you will recognize it. I really pity you but luckily you are an arrogant prick.

Piss off now, asshole. Mama&#039;s calling to change your fucking diaper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck off, dickweed.  If enough people tell you how incredibly stupid you are, then maybe one day you will recognize it. I really pity you but luckily you are an arrogant prick.</p>
<p>Piss off now, asshole. Mama&#8217;s calling to change your fucking diaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218235</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope you take what I&#039;m about to say to heart despite your superior judgement: you really should learn some people skills.  I&#039;ve met many highly-intelligent people like you, and many of them have the same problem as you; often lonely and have trouble making and maintaining friendships because they are so many levels of genius above everyone else.  I know it&#039;s extremely difficult for you, but try to at least dumb yourself down on the surface to be more personable to average Joe&#039;s like me.  It will be excruciatingly annoying for you in the beginning, but the richness and warmth you&#039;ll gain from interpersonal relationships is well worth the intellectual self-sabotage.  Anyway, I shouldn&#039;t be telling someone like you what to do, but it&#039;s just my two cents =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you take what I&#8217;m about to say to heart despite your superior judgement: you really should learn some people skills.  I&#8217;ve met many highly-intelligent people like you, and many of them have the same problem as you; often lonely and have trouble making and maintaining friendships because they are so many levels of genius above everyone else.  I know it&#8217;s extremely difficult for you, but try to at least dumb yourself down on the surface to be more personable to average Joe&#8217;s like me.  It will be excruciatingly annoying for you in the beginning, but the richness and warmth you&#8217;ll gain from interpersonal relationships is well worth the intellectual self-sabotage.  Anyway, I shouldn&#8217;t be telling someone like you what to do, but it&#8217;s just my two cents =)</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 05:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus you are even more of a jackoff than I gave you credit for.  My opinion of you has sunk lower, which I really wouldn&#039;t have thought possible. You are seriously as dense as a fucking black hole. I am amazed at your level of stupidity, its a wonder you can function on a daily basis.

This so-called conversation is over.  Engage me again and you will get nothing but base insults.

Now, in all seriousness, fuck off home, you piece of supercilious shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus you are even more of a jackoff than I gave you credit for.  My opinion of you has sunk lower, which I really wouldn&#8217;t have thought possible. You are seriously as dense as a fucking black hole. I am amazed at your level of stupidity, its a wonder you can function on a daily basis.</p>
<p>This so-called conversation is over.  Engage me again and you will get nothing but base insults.</p>
<p>Now, in all seriousness, fuck off home, you piece of supercilious shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only reason I am snarky to you is because anything else is a waste of time on my part.  I know this because you&#039;ve already prejudged and pigeonholed me, and have your mind made up about the person I am, so any sincere arguments made on my part would fall on deaf ears.  I know this because I&#039;ve talked with many people like you online (I&#039;m looking at you, r/china) who just love to throw out the &quot;wumao&quot; thing to anyone who tries to see all sides of an issue before finally falling back on the default &quot;lol china sux&quot; opinion.

By the way, how many wumao people do you think are actually reading/writing in English on BeijingCream?  It&#039;s absolutely absurd, and quite narcissistic really to think that the Chinese government is paying agents to try and persuade idiots like us.

You write with such conviction (read: pretension), but actually your tired ideas I&#039;ve heard many times at 2 am from 20-year-old exchange students at Butterfly in Sanlitun.  Anyone who has read the back cover of 1984 would reach the conclusions that you do, and feel really good about them, too.

To be honest, I&#039;ve taken what you&#039;ve written here to heart, and you are obviously intelligent, but so many of your comments (or replies to me, anyway) stink of reactionary thinking bubbling up from a surface-level understanding.  The Chinese government is really, really easy to hate, so it&#039;s no wonder that people such as myself who aren&#039;t on full-hate mode at all times get criticized and bullied.  As I pointed out before, if you can&#039;t see the irony in that, I don&#039;t know what else to tell you.

Or as Mo Yan himself put it:

&quot;Mo: I am reminded of the rituals of repetition in the Cultural Revolution. If I decide to speak, then nobody will stop me. If I decide not to speak, then not even a knife at my neck will make me speak.&quot;

By the way, regarding his &quot;defense&quot; of the Party - I think what I he means to say is that the Party of today was not the Party of the Cultural Revolution - except in name, in that it has improved and adapted greatly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason I am snarky to you is because anything else is a waste of time on my part.  I know this because you&#8217;ve already prejudged and pigeonholed me, and have your mind made up about the person I am, so any sincere arguments made on my part would fall on deaf ears.  I know this because I&#8217;ve talked with many people like you online (I&#8217;m looking at you, r/china) who just love to throw out the &#8220;wumao&#8221; thing to anyone who tries to see all sides of an issue before finally falling back on the default &#8220;lol china sux&#8221; opinion.</p>
<p>By the way, how many wumao people do you think are actually reading/writing in English on BeijingCream?  It&#8217;s absolutely absurd, and quite narcissistic really to think that the Chinese government is paying agents to try and persuade idiots like us.</p>
<p>You write with such conviction (read: pretension), but actually your tired ideas I&#8217;ve heard many times at 2 am from 20-year-old exchange students at Butterfly in Sanlitun.  Anyone who has read the back cover of 1984 would reach the conclusions that you do, and feel really good about them, too.</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;ve taken what you&#8217;ve written here to heart, and you are obviously intelligent, but so many of your comments (or replies to me, anyway) stink of reactionary thinking bubbling up from a surface-level understanding.  The Chinese government is really, really easy to hate, so it&#8217;s no wonder that people such as myself who aren&#8217;t on full-hate mode at all times get criticized and bullied.  As I pointed out before, if you can&#8217;t see the irony in that, I don&#8217;t know what else to tell you.</p>
<p>Or as Mo Yan himself put it:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mo: I am reminded of the rituals of repetition in the Cultural Revolution. If I decide to speak, then nobody will stop me. If I decide not to speak, then not even a knife at my neck will make me speak.&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, regarding his &#8220;defense&#8221; of the Party &#8211; I think what I he means to say is that the Party of today was not the Party of the Cultural Revolution &#8211; except in name, in that it has improved and adapted greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan, I have watched you use the exact same tactics and the wumao on a regular basis, and said basically nothing, because your comments are largely snark without much in the way of content.  

And then you decided that DVD&#039;s childish taunts were witty, and that pushed me over the edge.  That&#039;s when I decided to call you out.

What&#039;s not to understand? You act like a wumao, and so people call you a wumao.  I don&#039;t know or care if you really are, but damn you sure love to use their moves, again and again.

Even your snark above is hackish.  Is it not obvious that a movement that swept the entire nation and involved basically every single party member and party official necessarily implicates the party itself?  And yet, you snark that I must be an expert for this amazing insight into the CR.

You just go ahead and do what you want man.  There are times where the western media makes mistakes, lord knows I have no love for the media back in the states, they are a bunch of simpletons.  There are also areas of valid disagreement. People who first arrive here tend to want to empathize with China, even with the Chinese government, I know I did, for probably the first 3+ years. 

But you shouldn&#039;t be surprised when certain actions lead to certain consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, I have watched you use the exact same tactics and the wumao on a regular basis, and said basically nothing, because your comments are largely snark without much in the way of content.  </p>
<p>And then you decided that DVD&#8217;s childish taunts were witty, and that pushed me over the edge.  That&#8217;s when I decided to call you out.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s not to understand? You act like a wumao, and so people call you a wumao.  I don&#8217;t know or care if you really are, but damn you sure love to use their moves, again and again.</p>
<p>Even your snark above is hackish.  Is it not obvious that a movement that swept the entire nation and involved basically every single party member and party official necessarily implicates the party itself?  And yet, you snark that I must be an expert for this amazing insight into the CR.</p>
<p>You just go ahead and do what you want man.  There are times where the western media makes mistakes, lord knows I have no love for the media back in the states, they are a bunch of simpletons.  There are also areas of valid disagreement. People who first arrive here tend to want to empathize with China, even with the Chinese government, I know I did, for probably the first 3+ years. </p>
<p>But you shouldn&#8217;t be surprised when certain actions lead to certain consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you have time to meet in person and hash out our differences?  You obviously have misunderstood me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have time to meet in person and hash out our differences?  You obviously have misunderstood me.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 05:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its ok Jonathan, I am done embarrassing you, for now at least.

You may go back to defending Chinese brutality and tonguing DVD&#039;s butt crack.

Run along now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its ok Jonathan, I am done embarrassing you, for now at least.</p>
<p>You may go back to defending Chinese brutality and tonguing DVD&#8217;s butt crack.</p>
<p>Run along now!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 01:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking forward to the release of your book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the release of your book.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a joke to say that the Cultural Revolution was individuals rather than the party.  First of all, the situation could not have spiraled out of control as it did without the party&#039;s perverse structure of raw unlimited power.  

Second, the entire event started as a power struggle within the party, which had and has no limitations or systems to control these struggles.

Party hacks love to criticize corrupt officials while leaving the party blameless.  Then the party can make more corrupt leaders...its a vicious cycle. The problems have to be blamed on the weakness of individuals, otherwise it would become obvious that corruption is a feature not a bug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a joke to say that the Cultural Revolution was individuals rather than the party.  First of all, the situation could not have spiraled out of control as it did without the party&#8217;s perverse structure of raw unlimited power.  </p>
<p>Second, the entire event started as a power struggle within the party, which had and has no limitations or systems to control these struggles.</p>
<p>Party hacks love to criticize corrupt officials while leaving the party blameless.  Then the party can make more corrupt leaders&#8230;its a vicious cycle. The problems have to be blamed on the weakness of individuals, otherwise it would become obvious that corruption is a feature not a bug.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/02/mo-yan-grants-first-interview-since-winning-nobel-prize/#comment-218108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent interviewer. And it&#039;s nice to hear someone finally stick it to Ai Weiwei.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent interviewer. And it&#8217;s nice to hear someone finally stick it to Ai Weiwei.</p>
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