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	<title>Comments on: Chinagog: Real-World Language Learning Advice: Have A Drink</title>
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		<title>By: King Tubby</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/04/chinagog-real-world-language-learning-advice-have-a-drink/#comment-221272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[King Tubby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 08:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; I have a uniquely Irish ability to speak coherently/&quot; drivel!

Pillow dictionaries probably better prepare you for IELTS than this wanker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I have a uniquely Irish ability to speak coherently/&#8221; drivel!</p>
<p>Pillow dictionaries probably better prepare you for IELTS than this wanker.</p>
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		<title>By: King Tubby</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/04/chinagog-real-world-language-learning-advice-have-a-drink/#comment-221271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[King Tubby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 08:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have a uniquely Irish ability to speak  (drivel) ....&quot;

Wanker.

This is like tripping up quadriplegics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have a uniquely Irish ability to speak  (drivel) &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wanker.</p>
<p>This is like tripping up quadriplegics.</p>
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		<title>By: sourpuss</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/04/chinagog-real-world-language-learning-advice-have-a-drink/#comment-221192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sourpuss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate a joke as well as anyone, but the above gives the impression of being an earnest account of language learning. It should NOT be taken seriously in regard to language learning. I have no problem acknowledging limited benefits for alcohol in helping people relax, but encouraging outright drunkeness as a route to acquisition is irresponsible. The &#039;documentation&#039; cited about the connection between alcohol and acquisition says nothing about benefits of drunkeness (as opposed to effects of imbibing a small amount of alcohol). The authors document transitory benefits for pronunciation and their analysis indicates a clear point at which the improvement steeply drops off (just as can be observed in native language speech, of course). Additionally, the cited article says nothing about long-term gains in accuracy. I&#039;m being a sour-puss, but it&#039;s just not helpful to make false claims about language acquisition. Also, fluency doesn&#039;t benefit from making mistakes, it benefits from not worrying about them. In that sense, alcohol might help a person socialize in L2, just like it does in L1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate a joke as well as anyone, but the above gives the impression of being an earnest account of language learning. It should NOT be taken seriously in regard to language learning. I have no problem acknowledging limited benefits for alcohol in helping people relax, but encouraging outright drunkeness as a route to acquisition is irresponsible. The &#8216;documentation&#8217; cited about the connection between alcohol and acquisition says nothing about benefits of drunkeness (as opposed to effects of imbibing a small amount of alcohol). The authors document transitory benefits for pronunciation and their analysis indicates a clear point at which the improvement steeply drops off (just as can be observed in native language speech, of course). Additionally, the cited article says nothing about long-term gains in accuracy. I&#8217;m being a sour-puss, but it&#8217;s just not helpful to make false claims about language acquisition. Also, fluency doesn&#8217;t benefit from making mistakes, it benefits from not worrying about them. In that sense, alcohol might help a person socialize in L2, just like it does in L1.</p>
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		<title>By: King Baeksu</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/04/chinagog-real-world-language-learning-advice-have-a-drink/#comment-221148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[King Baeksu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pillow talk is also a pleasurable means of language acquisition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pillow talk is also a pleasurable means of language acquisition.</p>
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