. . . . oh wait, all that shit happened to me in China.

http://www.npr.org/2013/05/27/186457528/targets-of-disgraced-bo-xilai-still-languish-in-jail

What they don’t mention is that other national leaders were scared of Bo during this time and dared not to challenge his ‘singing red’ campaign, even though they knew it was just cover for his political purge and his theft of the assets of the people he imprisoned or had murdered. In fact many went to Chongqing to praise him during that time.

Surely, Xinjiang and Tibet are truly happy places where the people love all the party has done for them, the proof of that is the classes the party makes people take about why they should love the party. If it wasn’t for the CIAs meddling everything would just be grand!

Wow, the western media is so unfair to China. Why, they focus on all the people who die in police custody and never mention the many who don’t die is police custody! They talk every day about China torturing lawyers and dissidents in prison, and never mention that 90% of the days they feed the prisoners! What selective reporting!!

The trick to pulling it off is to ignore any and all debate on the credibility of the reporting, and then throw it to the pundits to clamor on 24/7 bashing it into everyone’s skulls. Any positive stories must always have the pre-determined irrelevant reference points and phrases mixed in, and if worse comes to worse, you buffer it with anything negative that can be found no matter how unrelated it is. This can be furthered by misreporting, and then silently issuing a retraction which goes unnoticed.

In the case of China, it is par for the course to report on anything anti-government regardless, link it to 64, link it to any buzz words in the public mentality to convey that negative view. And of course, never mention anything about investigation results or resolutions.

And before you go and say anything starting even remotely with “but, china”, know that you will lose that argument immediately.

Most Americans (myself included) loathe American corporations for the exact same reasons (i.e. horrible customer service)….

And if the government must order everyone not to complain, how good could that government be? Will a good government that does its job and doesn’t make people angry need to do that? How long can the government tell everyone how great they are while all the officials are sending their children outside? But if I am an official I will definitely do that, because the future is too uncertain and even in the party its dangerous, you might find you lost everything one day, even your life. Better to get ready at least.

These days, the price of the house is crazy expensive, actually everything is expensive. That’s why young people are angry, and they have good reasons for it. The government is responsible for the house price and the rich connected people made lots of money on that already. Actually these markets take money out of the people’s hands and give it to the government, its a real problem.

And the government just tells everyone to shut up or you might be punished. Its not a good way at all.

And if the government must order everyone not to complain, how good could that government be? Will a good government that does its job and doesn’t make people angry need to do that? How long can the government tell everyone how great they are while all the officials are sending their children outside? But if I am an official I will definitely do that, because the future is too uncertain and even in the party its dangerous, you might find you lost everything one day, even your life. Better to get ready at least.

These days, the price of the house is crazy expensive, actually everything is expensive. That’s why young people are angry, and they have good reasons for it. The government is responsible for the house price and the rich connected people made lots of money on that already. Actually these markets take money out of the people’s hands and give it to the government, its a real problem.

And the government just tells everyone to shut up or you might be punished. Its not a good way at all.

How fabulous these trash is!

In reality, some Chinese guy are not mature enough to judge right and wrong, and these trash would lead them to think the their motherland is a sh*t. And it does take effects. Young generations(although i am part of it ) tend to complain about EVERYTHING in China, and, on the opposite, America is a faultless country, although it does make faults sometimes.

I thought mind-altering drugs were banned in China?

What I was saying to Matt was that the Chinese propaganda is not to counter US propaganda at all, but to do its job of managing opinions in China, and perhaps make money at the same time, or at least get hits so the bosses can justify their salaries. There are not two similar sides in this media battle.

If everything is US propaganda, then where are the false stories planted in the media about China? When someone argues that a story is propaganda, what they are really trying to do is avoid discussing why the situation happens and what should be done about it. Because that is verboten.

Indeed, every story is probably fake, right? Except the Chinese media is apparently so bad at proving the stories are fake, too bad Chinese media is famous for being censored and making up stories when needed and so has no credibility. But its certainly true that every mass incident in China is caused by foreign forces and splittists, why that’s for sure. Couldn’t be because of government policy or government thievery in China, no that would be impossible.

But really too bad that most if not all of the stories are true. China does torture dissidents just for saying party rule is not a great system, does illegally detain people in their own homes for months or years at a time, does throw people into black jails, does steal the land of the people for pennies on the dollar, and then sells it to rich developers, also for a cheap price but they do get some corruption money out of it.

China’s party did have a purge in Chongqing recently, with hundreds tortured, imprisoned and many rich people had their property stolen by Bo and his henchmen. But every story which mentions anything bad about China in the western media is propaganda, I tell you!

Sigh. Please be better at your job or go away. Or just, go away.

And even then you have to ask whether the story is basically true, propaganda or not. Some people want to describe the CGC story as propaganda, but its a real story about Chinese government brutality, and it didn’t make waves in the US until he had been illegally detained in his home for over a year (not to mention the prior years of repression against him including prison on trumped-up charges and so on). Its a real story, and calling it propaganda is meaningless, unless you can also call the story false.

If China was serious about it they could lay out some decent propaganda about the US, but they are jokers who aren’t serious about anything besides wasting the public’s money. Plus the reputation of these organizations is so bad they can’t be believed at all, at any time.

News Corp is awful of course and its embarrassing and a bit shocking how bad their right-wing propaganda is in the US. But trust it to the same extent as PD? Come on, get a sense of perspective, pls.