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	<title>Comments on: Jerome Cohen And Others Respond To Chen Guangcheng, More Sternly</title>
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		<title>By: Feixiaotong</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-228030</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Feixiaotong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only substantive point in this article was made in the first two sentences.  Chen and his group have not shown any basis for the public claims that they are making.  Unless they have evidence, that is indefensible.

Criticisms of Chen from Jerome Cohen are both understandable and largely a distraction.  Cohen could not plausibly know with certainty that there was no aspect of external pressure, or internal concern related to the NYU Shanghai project, involved.  It is unlikely that he would have been present at the specific higher level administrative meetings at NYU where such decisions could be made.  Jerry&#039;s critique of Chen is understandable, given that he does not believe the accusations to be the case, but tells us little otherwise.

It is plausible that NYU either received, or perceived, pressure on this issue.  It is also plausible that they did not.  It is in practice odd that, under the circumstances, Chen&#039;s initial I-year placement was not extended, but there could be many reasons for that.

What is clear is that without evidence, Chen should not be making these public accusations. 

Let&#039;s not weep for NYU&#039;s &quot;confusion and sadness.&quot;  It&#039;s feelings may have been hurt, but it will be fine.  Paraphrasing Frisch: NYU wanted a grateful and properly productive Chinese dissident; what they got was a flawed human being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only substantive point in this article was made in the first two sentences.  Chen and his group have not shown any basis for the public claims that they are making.  Unless they have evidence, that is indefensible.</p>
<p>Criticisms of Chen from Jerome Cohen are both understandable and largely a distraction.  Cohen could not plausibly know with certainty that there was no aspect of external pressure, or internal concern related to the NYU Shanghai project, involved.  It is unlikely that he would have been present at the specific higher level administrative meetings at NYU where such decisions could be made.  Jerry&#8217;s critique of Chen is understandable, given that he does not believe the accusations to be the case, but tells us little otherwise.</p>
<p>It is plausible that NYU either received, or perceived, pressure on this issue.  It is also plausible that they did not.  It is in practice odd that, under the circumstances, Chen&#8217;s initial I-year placement was not extended, but there could be many reasons for that.</p>
<p>What is clear is that without evidence, Chen should not be making these public accusations. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not weep for NYU&#8217;s &#8220;confusion and sadness.&#8221;  It&#8217;s feelings may have been hurt, but it will be fine.  Paraphrasing Frisch: NYU wanted a grateful and properly productive Chinese dissident; what they got was a flawed human being.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They only act against the corrupt, illegitimate communist party, which holds the Chinese people as hostages in its pursuit of power and wealth. Every single need of the people is a chance for the party to get richer.

Not against the &#039;Chinese states&#039;. The party is not the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only act against the corrupt, illegitimate communist party, which holds the Chinese people as hostages in its pursuit of power and wealth. Every single need of the people is a chance for the party to get richer.</p>
<p>Not against the &#8216;Chinese states&#8217;. The party is not the country.</p>
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		<title>By: whatsis</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatsis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 05:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to wonder, though, exactly what NYU expects Chen to do after one year. He doesn&#039;t speak English, he has no marketable skills in the US, this is his first time abroad. How is he supposed to find a job and support himself in this situation? Even if he had taken advantage of English lessons or other educational opportunities, would it be enough to land him employment at a convenience store after only one year? Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to wonder, though, exactly what NYU expects Chen to do after one year. He doesn&#8217;t speak English, he has no marketable skills in the US, this is his first time abroad. How is he supposed to find a job and support himself in this situation? Even if he had taken advantage of English lessons or other educational opportunities, would it be enough to land him employment at a convenience store after only one year? Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ChasL</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChasL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The analogy I would use for all these “pro-democracy” traitors who sell out to Uncle Sam’s NED grants and act against the Chinese states – used up crack whores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The analogy I would use for all these “pro-democracy” traitors who sell out to Uncle Sam’s NED grants and act against the Chinese states – used up crack whores.</p>
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		<title>By: RhZ</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RhZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, you would wonder why, the US being so shitty, now wouldn&#039;t you?

Not like the workers&#039; paradise that is China today.

How many seconds would it take MrT to jump at the chance to get his own green card, if it were offered?  I say 3 seconds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you would wonder why, the US being so shitty, now wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Not like the workers&#8217; paradise that is China today.</p>
<p>How many seconds would it take MrT to jump at the chance to get his own green card, if it were offered?  I say 3 seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: MrT</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its amazing the lengths people go to get a green card in shitty US of A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing the lengths people go to get a green card in shitty US of A</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese Netizen</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/06/jerome-cohen-and-others-respond-to-chen-guangcheng/#comment-227625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chinese Netizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 06:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[REALITY SHOW!!!! Blind Chinaman moves in with &quot;Jersey Shore&quot; crew and hilarity ensues!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REALITY SHOW!!!! Blind Chinaman moves in with &#8220;Jersey Shore&#8221; crew and hilarity ensues!!</p>
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