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	<title>Comments on: ABC Apologizes For Jimmy Kimmel&#8217;s Kid&#8217;s Table Joke About &#8220;Killing Everyone In China&#8221; [UPDATE]</title>
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		<title>By: Chen</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-238546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People are too quick to conflate national origin and race.  The two might be intricately linked, but the nuances matter.

Case in point: &quot;To all Asians and Asian-Americans&quot;

Those are not the same group of people -- the latter is a subset of the former.  It is up to the individual to choose to identify themselves by race or by country.  An Asian-American has every right to identify herself more as an &quot;Asian&quot; or more as an &quot;American.&quot;  So when you proclaim, &quot;You&#039;re Asian,&quot; you&#039;re undermining the experiences of Asian-Americans who prefer to view the world through a less racial lens, who value their identity as &quot;Americans&quot; above simply being pigeonholed into a racial category.

Jimmy Kimmel&#039;s joke &quot;attacked&quot; a country, not a race.  All the reasons why Kimmel&#039;s joke is xenophobic, or views China as a threat - those are not RACIST perspectives, but nationalist perspectives.  They center on China as a COUNTRY, not Chinese or Asians as a race.  Conflating the two concepts, and reducing every hostile remark as &quot;racist,&quot; is socially unproductive and intellectually disengaging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are too quick to conflate national origin and race.  The two might be intricately linked, but the nuances matter.</p>
<p>Case in point: &#8220;To all Asians and Asian-Americans&#8221;</p>
<p>Those are not the same group of people &#8212; the latter is a subset of the former.  It is up to the individual to choose to identify themselves by race or by country.  An Asian-American has every right to identify herself more as an &#8220;Asian&#8221; or more as an &#8220;American.&#8221;  So when you proclaim, &#8220;You&#8217;re Asian,&#8221; you&#8217;re undermining the experiences of Asian-Americans who prefer to view the world through a less racial lens, who value their identity as &#8220;Americans&#8221; above simply being pigeonholed into a racial category.</p>
<p>Jimmy Kimmel&#8217;s joke &#8220;attacked&#8221; a country, not a race.  All the reasons why Kimmel&#8217;s joke is xenophobic, or views China as a threat &#8211; those are not RACIST perspectives, but nationalist perspectives.  They center on China as a COUNTRY, not Chinese or Asians as a race.  Conflating the two concepts, and reducing every hostile remark as &#8220;racist,&#8221; is socially unproductive and intellectually disengaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Cant</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-238344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Cant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice try. &quot;Jews&quot; and &quot;blacks&quot; refers to ethnic groups. &quot;Everyone in China&quot; refers to the residents of China, not the Chinese people. It doesn&#039;t (for example) refer to residents of Taiwan or Chinese-Americans.

A far more appropriate analogy would be if they replaced &quot;everyone in China&quot; with &quot;everyone in England.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try. &#8220;Jews&#8221; and &#8220;blacks&#8221; refers to ethnic groups. &#8220;Everyone in China&#8221; refers to the residents of China, not the Chinese people. It doesn&#8217;t (for example) refer to residents of Taiwan or Chinese-Americans.</p>
<p>A far more appropriate analogy would be if they replaced &#8220;everyone in China&#8221; with &#8220;everyone in England.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: China Suk</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-238287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[China Suk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WE should K-I-L-L ALL CHINESE PEOPLE INCLUDING S.B. Woo STUPID c-h--i-n-k-s !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE should K-I-L-L ALL CHINESE PEOPLE INCLUDING S.B. Woo STUPID c-h&#8211;i-n-k-s !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-238002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dealing with the Bully by Discounting the Victim

This blog entry in reply to the Kimmel incident is yet another instance of an Asian-American wanting to downplay racial discrimination against his own race in an effort at distancing himself from a social ill which appears too large to tackle and with the belief that, by not defending himself and others against it, he is somehow not a part of that sociologically weaker group. This approach is further strengthened when he makes claims AGAINST that weak group.

- To all Asians and Asian-Americans: You&#039;re Asian. Show SOME dignity when those around you try to mistreat you and/or your social status.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dealing with the Bully by Discounting the Victim</p>
<p>This blog entry in reply to the Kimmel incident is yet another instance of an Asian-American wanting to downplay racial discrimination against his own race in an effort at distancing himself from a social ill which appears too large to tackle and with the belief that, by not defending himself and others against it, he is somehow not a part of that sociologically weaker group. This approach is further strengthened when he makes claims AGAINST that weak group.</p>
<p>- To all Asians and Asian-Americans: You&#8217;re Asian. Show SOME dignity when those around you try to mistreat you and/or your social status.</p>
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		<title>By: prosecutejimmykimmelboycottabcdisney</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-235589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prosecutejimmykimmelboycottabcdisney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prosecutejimmykimmelboycottabcdisney</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-235073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 22:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seriously agree, I&#039;m in the same shoes as this man but I fail to see his logic and opinions. His tone in this article and the articles relating to this just utterly disgusts me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seriously agree, I&#8217;m in the same shoes as this man but I fail to see his logic and opinions. His tone in this article and the articles relating to this just utterly disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-234048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t live.  It was deliberately left in the final cut.  That means the editors or producers or whatever thought it was fit to broadcast, and therefore funny and entertaining for the general public.  Again, if it was any other group of people, there would be tremendous outrage.  It&#039;s OK to say &quot;kill all the Chinese&quot; because they are constantly portrayed as our ideological and economical rivals, not people.

Sure, this kid doesn&#039;t know what he is saying, but I guarantee he is just repeating what he&#039;s probably heard his parents say.  The fact that this part was left in shows that the producers probably guessed that many of their viewers feel this way, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t live.  It was deliberately left in the final cut.  That means the editors or producers or whatever thought it was fit to broadcast, and therefore funny and entertaining for the general public.  Again, if it was any other group of people, there would be tremendous outrage.  It&#8217;s OK to say &#8220;kill all the Chinese&#8221; because they are constantly portrayed as our ideological and economical rivals, not people.</p>
<p>Sure, this kid doesn&#8217;t know what he is saying, but I guarantee he is just repeating what he&#8217;s probably heard his parents say.  The fact that this part was left in shows that the producers probably guessed that many of their viewers feel this way, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese Netizen</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-233969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chinese Netizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or &quot;Irish Vermin&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or &#8220;Irish Vermin&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bomber</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-233966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bomber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Tao... I doubt this kid has any context for understanding what China is or how many people live there.  That&#039;s the whole point of the joke... Kimmel was making fun of congress, and in that goal he succeeded.

And if he had said &quot;All Jews“ or &quot;All Blacks&quot;  I would argue the same thing.  ABC probably shouldn&#039;t have aired it, but who gives a shit.  There&#039;s no such thing as bad press, and it really is a situation where everyone wins.. Check the Chinese blogoshphere and see how far over their heads the comedy is; check the Western blogosphere and you&#039;ll find no shortage of Al Sharpton wannabees screaming bloody murder.

Hey, if it drives traffic do it!  Tao knows this! hahaha]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Tao&#8230; I doubt this kid has any context for understanding what China is or how many people live there.  That&#8217;s the whole point of the joke&#8230; Kimmel was making fun of congress, and in that goal he succeeded.</p>
<p>And if he had said &#8220;All Jews“ or &#8220;All Blacks&#8221;  I would argue the same thing.  ABC probably shouldn&#8217;t have aired it, but who gives a shit.  There&#8217;s no such thing as bad press, and it really is a situation where everyone wins.. Check the Chinese blogoshphere and see how far over their heads the comedy is; check the Western blogosphere and you&#8217;ll find no shortage of Al Sharpton wannabees screaming bloody murder.</p>
<p>Hey, if it drives traffic do it!  Tao knows this! hahaha</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-233926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Replace &quot;everyone in China&quot; with &quot;Jews&quot; or &quot;blacks&quot; and you can see the problem.  It&#039;s pretty bad, Tao.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace &#8220;everyone in China&#8221; with &#8220;Jews&#8221; or &#8220;blacks&#8221; and you can see the problem.  It&#8217;s pretty bad, Tao.</p>
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		<title>By: narsfweasels</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-233882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[narsfweasels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 02:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember when Yang Rui went on his anti-foreign trash and subsequently apolo... 

...oh, no. He didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when Yang Rui went on his anti-foreign trash and subsequently apolo&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;oh, no. He didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2013/10/abc-apologizes-for-joke-about-killing-everyone-in-china/#comment-233858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[george]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony is such a self hating Chinese, he always spits after his white friends make him do ATM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony is such a self hating Chinese, he always spits after his white friends make him do ATM.</p>
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