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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/04/local-musicians-grapple-with-made-in-china-label/#comment-267297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh, do you think Chinese music is being misrepresented? What other genres/styles would you like to see more coverage of? Any recommendations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, do you think Chinese music is being misrepresented? What other genres/styles would you like to see more coverage of? Any recommendations?</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/04/local-musicians-grapple-with-made-in-china-label/#comment-267187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Sorry, that was meant to be a general comment, not a reply.)]]></description>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Sorry, that was meant to be a general comment ,not a reply.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry, that was meant to be a general comment ,not a reply.)</p>
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		<title>By: Benji</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benji]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China&#039;s foray into idol manufacturing in the Korean vein has come and gone. The Korean model is dead.

Five or six years ago, Chinese labels would partner with Korean entertainment companies to create boy and girl bands. Prospective members from China would be sent to Korea to train to sing and dance. The music production was Korean. The video production was Korean. Wardrobe. Choreography. 
Management was Chinese.

Most of them flopped. The three most successful boy bands, &lt;b&gt;H.I.T&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Top Combine&lt;/b&gt; (which even had a Korean member) and &lt;b&gt;M.I.C&lt;/b&gt;, achieved moderate success at best. Girl groups such as &lt;b&gt;S.P.Y&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Idol Girls&lt;/b&gt; never made much of an impact. The last, real attempt at this was in 2012 with the Japanese &lt;b&gt;Johnny&#039;s Entertainment&lt;/b&gt; creating its own Chinese boyband.

Currently, reality television talent contests dominate the pop music industry. They had been a staple of Mainland Chinese pop music since 2005, when HunanTV&#039;s &lt;b&gt;Super Girls&lt;/b&gt; first became massively popular. But monotony and censorship eroded the franchise&#039;s relevance over the years.

That reality TV format was revived, explosively, in 2012 with &lt;b&gt;The Voice of China&lt;/b&gt;. This was followed by copycat franchises. Some foreign, like &lt;b&gt;X-Factor&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Chinese Idol&lt;/b&gt;, some local, like &lt;b&gt;Sing My Song&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Let&#039;s Sing Kids&lt;/b&gt;. Since then, these contests have virtually monopolised entry into the pop industry. It is now almost impossible to make it in the Chinese pop market without prior exposure. The last person to do so was probably &lt;b&gt;Wanting Qu&lt;/b&gt;, in 2012. Chinese labels with budding singers often form agreements with reality television producers to have them compete on shows for exposure. There is almost no other way. 

For its part, &lt;b&gt;I Am A Singer&lt;/b&gt; (also a Korean franchise), is hardly an idol show. It brings together already established, veteran singers to compete against each other. Most of them are in their 30s and 40s. Simple commercialisation does not an idol make. And that&#039;s perhaps where this gets it all wrong: not everything that&#039;s not independent is an idol. Promotion is not idolatry. Artist development is not idolatry. Being mainstream does not mean you&#039;re an idol.

The Korean influence on the Chinese music industry is still strong. And growing. Korean producers are more and more frequently producing Chinese songs. Video production is sometimes done in Korea. But the Korean idol format in China is dead. Since 2012.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China&#8217;s foray into idol manufacturing in the Korean vein has come and gone. The Korean model is dead.</p>
<p>Five or six years ago, Chinese labels would partner with Korean entertainment companies to create boy and girl bands. Prospective members from China would be sent to Korea to train to sing and dance. The music production was Korean. The video production was Korean. Wardrobe. Choreography.<br />
Management was Chinese.</p>
<p>Most of them flopped. The three most successful boy bands, <b>H.I.T</b>, <b>Top Combine</b> (which even had a Korean member) and <b>M.I.C</b>, achieved moderate success at best. Girl groups such as <b>S.P.Y</b> and <b>Idol Girls</b> never made much of an impact. The last, real attempt at this was in 2012 with the Japanese <b>Johnny&#8217;s Entertainment</b> creating its own Chinese boyband.</p>
<p>Currently, reality television talent contests dominate the pop music industry. They had been a staple of Mainland Chinese pop music since 2005, when HunanTV&#8217;s <b>Super Girls</b> first became massively popular. But monotony and censorship eroded the franchise&#8217;s relevance over the years.</p>
<p>That reality TV format was revived, explosively, in 2012 with <b>The Voice of China</b>. This was followed by copycat franchises. Some foreign, like <b>X-Factor</b> and <b>Chinese Idol</b>, some local, like <b>Sing My Song</b> and <b>Let&#8217;s Sing Kids</b>. Since then, these contests have virtually monopolised entry into the pop industry. It is now almost impossible to make it in the Chinese pop market without prior exposure. The last person to do so was probably <b>Wanting Qu</b>, in 2012. Chinese labels with budding singers often form agreements with reality television producers to have them compete on shows for exposure. There is almost no other way. </p>
<p>For its part, <b>I Am A Singer</b> (also a Korean franchise), is hardly an idol show. It brings together already established, veteran singers to compete against each other. Most of them are in their 30s and 40s. Simple commercialisation does not an idol make. And that&#8217;s perhaps where this gets it all wrong: not everything that&#8217;s not independent is an idol. Promotion is not idolatry. Artist development is not idolatry. Being mainstream does not mean you&#8217;re an idol.</p>
<p>The Korean influence on the Chinese music industry is still strong. And growing. Korean producers are more and more frequently producing Chinese songs. Video production is sometimes done in Korea. But the Korean idol format in China is dead. Since 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Alpart</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/04/local-musicians-grapple-with-made-in-china-label/#comment-267050</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Alpart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 03:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Underground and independent music is never going to get support from the mainstream, especially in a country like China. We&#039;ve seen countless examples of China&#039;s failure to grasp soft power, and although I personally believe that government promotion of their homegrown musical artists would do wonders for their image abroad, that&#039;s likely not going to happen anytime soon. (I have heard though that the government actually is sponsoring or considering to sponsor these types of bands going abroad for tours, which would be fantastic.)

But staying on point, mainstream music, following the Korean model (which is really just a extreme, plasticized version of the American/British model) by definition cares nothing about actual art and only about profits. So to lament the mainstream for not caring about supporting the arts is moot. The underground/indie scenes must do it themselves, that&#039;s the very definition of those scenes, and that is also what keeps them fresh and creative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underground and independent music is never going to get support from the mainstream, especially in a country like China. We&#8217;ve seen countless examples of China&#8217;s failure to grasp soft power, and although I personally believe that government promotion of their homegrown musical artists would do wonders for their image abroad, that&#8217;s likely not going to happen anytime soon. (I have heard though that the government actually is sponsoring or considering to sponsor these types of bands going abroad for tours, which would be fantastic.)</p>
<p>But staying on point, mainstream music, following the Korean model (which is really just a extreme, plasticized version of the American/British model) by definition cares nothing about actual art and only about profits. So to lament the mainstream for not caring about supporting the arts is moot. The underground/indie scenes must do it themselves, that&#8217;s the very definition of those scenes, and that is also what keeps them fresh and creative.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there&#039;s very little foreign media coverage of Chinese music, period, but where it does exist, i&#039;d argue it much more heavily favors &#039;independent&#039; or &#039;underground&#039; music and not the pop industry. there&#039;s no chinese pop artist that has the profile of K-pop or J-pop groups abroad. rather the media gloms on to &#039;punk&#039; bands or &#039;world music&#039; bands like hanggai or shanren.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s very little foreign media coverage of Chinese music, period, but where it does exist, i&#8217;d argue it much more heavily favors &#8216;independent&#8217; or &#8216;underground&#8217; music and not the pop industry. there&#8217;s no chinese pop artist that has the profile of K-pop or J-pop groups abroad. rather the media gloms on to &#8216;punk&#8217; bands or &#8216;world music&#8217; bands like hanggai or shanren.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin McGeary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin McGeary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2014 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good stuff.</p>
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