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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/07/dfxj-the-story-of-the-production-and-construction-corps/#comment-279089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 08:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting comments all! Looks like Beige Wind has some intelligent -- and faithful -- readers . . .

For those who can read Chinese, here&#039;s a just-published tale of growing up Uyghur in Xinjiang: 

我的维吾尔“民族主义”是怎样形成的 
http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20140703/cc03mystory/ 

This is also an example of what is referred to above as &quot;lived experiences,&quot; but not one that will be appearing in a Xinjiang museum (or publication) soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments all! Looks like Beige Wind has some intelligent &#8212; and faithful &#8212; readers . . .</p>
<p>For those who can read Chinese, here&#8217;s a just-published tale of growing up Uyghur in Xinjiang: </p>
<p>我的维吾尔“民族主义”是怎样形成的<br />
<a href="http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20140703/cc03mystory/" rel="nofollow">http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20140703/cc03mystory/</a> </p>
<p>This is also an example of what is referred to above as &#8220;lived experiences,&#8221; but not one that will be appearing in a Xinjiang museum (or publication) soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/07/dfxj-the-story-of-the-production-and-construction-corps/#comment-279072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet, as has been mentioned before in Beige Wind, the local Uyghurs generally see the Han Chinese of the Bingtuan era in a more amicable light compared to the modern economic migrants because they were more inclined to see it as their responsibility to engage with the locals, learn Uyghur and respect local customs and traditions. It is a gross oversimplification to judge the participants of the Bingtuan system as simply a colonizing force of &quot;patriotic Han&quot;, which feels to me like a dismissal of the lived experiences of millions of individuals along ethnic lines and a continuation of the &quot;no Han belongs in Xinjiang&quot; narrative that a lot of Western scholars and Uyghur nationalists clearly espouse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, as has been mentioned before in Beige Wind, the local Uyghurs generally see the Han Chinese of the Bingtuan era in a more amicable light compared to the modern economic migrants because they were more inclined to see it as their responsibility to engage with the locals, learn Uyghur and respect local customs and traditions. It is a gross oversimplification to judge the participants of the Bingtuan system as simply a colonizing force of &#8220;patriotic Han&#8221;, which feels to me like a dismissal of the lived experiences of millions of individuals along ethnic lines and a continuation of the &#8220;no Han belongs in Xinjiang&#8221; narrative that a lot of Western scholars and Uyghur nationalists clearly espouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Chinese Netizen</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/07/dfxj-the-story-of-the-production-and-construction-corps/#comment-279046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chinese Netizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCP Han Chinese &quot;Manifest Destiny&quot;. Big Deal. Next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCP Han Chinese &#8220;Manifest Destiny&#8221;. Big Deal. Next.</p>
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		<title>By: Beige Wind</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/07/dfxj-the-story-of-the-production-and-construction-corps/#comment-279042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beige Wind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 19:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bruce,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. You’re right to point out that many scholars and journalists have written about the macro-political implications of the settlement project of the Bingtuan. James Millward’s historical overview, David Bachman’s pithy dissection of governance strategies, and Tom Cliff’s analysis of Shihezi as a “neo-oasis” are all well worth reading. Many of the &quot;Xinjiang 13&quot; (http://bloom.bg/1j13bEg) have also written about it. I allude to some of this by noting that the Bingtuan is 90 percent Han, that it functions as a penal colony for some and that the story told in the museum is the story of the marginalization of the minorities of the region, but perhaps I was depending too much on the reader to pick up on the implications of these indirect references.

My intention was that of drawing attention to the depth of Han perspectives, representations, and experiences in Xinjiang rather than prioritizing the broader implications of the state-generated process of settlement and transformation. If we follow the stories of Han people in the Bingtuan – many of whom identify themselves today as “Lao Xinjiang” – we hear stories of situations over which they had very little control. Extreme poverty, Maoist politics and systematic coercion, all played a role in their inscription into the Bingtuan system. Unlike the profit-seeking migration (XJ is actually the 4th largest receiver of construction workers after Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou – see Ren Qiang and Yuan Xin. 2003. &quot;Impacts of Migration to Xinjiang since the 1950s.&quot;) that began in the 1990s this earlier settlement process cannot really be thought of as “voluntary” (the structural violence of China’s hukou system is a major player in this later migration as well).   

Although many of the terms of strident macro-politics can be used to describe what is happening in Xinjiang, my feeling is that talking about the lives of everyday people in the categorical terms of absolute critique (chauvinism, racism, colonialism, occupation, terrorism, extremism, separatism etc) does not foster interethnic solidarity and mutual recognition. My goal instead is to describe the micropolitical mechanisms through which people get caught up in structural violence and oppression. Rather than assigning blame I hope to analyze the way contemporary forms of governance result in ethnicity projects, cultural invention, interpersonal agency, transnational linkages and urban development. I start from the premise that “balanced” representation is not really possible and instead attempt to be accurate in my presentation of experience-based evidence of both what has happened and what ought to be. As frustrating as it might be there is a future-oriented politics and an interpersonal ethics of care embedded in the refusal to label phenomena as recognizable things. Given the sensitive nature of the situation I also depend (perhaps too much in this case) on an active and sympathetic readership.
 
So thanks for reading – I hope my explanation of my intentions gives you a sense of where I am coming from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce,<br />
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. You’re right to point out that many scholars and journalists have written about the macro-political implications of the settlement project of the Bingtuan. James Millward’s historical overview, David Bachman’s pithy dissection of governance strategies, and Tom Cliff’s analysis of Shihezi as a “neo-oasis” are all well worth reading. Many of the &#8220;Xinjiang 13&#8243; (<a href="http://bloom.bg/1j13bEg" rel="nofollow">http://bloom.bg/1j13bEg</a>) have also written about it. I allude to some of this by noting that the Bingtuan is 90 percent Han, that it functions as a penal colony for some and that the story told in the museum is the story of the marginalization of the minorities of the region, but perhaps I was depending too much on the reader to pick up on the implications of these indirect references.</p>
<p>My intention was that of drawing attention to the depth of Han perspectives, representations, and experiences in Xinjiang rather than prioritizing the broader implications of the state-generated process of settlement and transformation. If we follow the stories of Han people in the Bingtuan – many of whom identify themselves today as “Lao Xinjiang” – we hear stories of situations over which they had very little control. Extreme poverty, Maoist politics and systematic coercion, all played a role in their inscription into the Bingtuan system. Unlike the profit-seeking migration (XJ is actually the 4th largest receiver of construction workers after Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou – see Ren Qiang and Yuan Xin. 2003. &#8220;Impacts of Migration to Xinjiang since the 1950s.&#8221;) that began in the 1990s this earlier settlement process cannot really be thought of as “voluntary” (the structural violence of China’s hukou system is a major player in this later migration as well).   </p>
<p>Although many of the terms of strident macro-politics can be used to describe what is happening in Xinjiang, my feeling is that talking about the lives of everyday people in the categorical terms of absolute critique (chauvinism, racism, colonialism, occupation, terrorism, extremism, separatism etc) does not foster interethnic solidarity and mutual recognition. My goal instead is to describe the micropolitical mechanisms through which people get caught up in structural violence and oppression. Rather than assigning blame I hope to analyze the way contemporary forms of governance result in ethnicity projects, cultural invention, interpersonal agency, transnational linkages and urban development. I start from the premise that “balanced” representation is not really possible and instead attempt to be accurate in my presentation of experience-based evidence of both what has happened and what ought to be. As frustrating as it might be there is a future-oriented politics and an interpersonal ethics of care embedded in the refusal to label phenomena as recognizable things. Given the sensitive nature of the situation I also depend (perhaps too much in this case) on an active and sympathetic readership.</p>
<p>So thanks for reading – I hope my explanation of my intentions gives you a sense of where I am coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://beijingcream.com/2014/07/dfxj-the-story-of-the-production-and-construction-corps/#comment-279011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve come to expect better from this column!

It&#039;s one thing to report on what China puts in a given museum; it&#039;s another to write about it at length without even mentioning how the reality on the ground contradicts the museum&#039;s Han chauvinist and incomplete narrative. 

The Bingtuan is nothing less than as a patriotic army of Han settlers holding down the fort in this Turkic-speaking, Muslim-dominated “Wild West,” a virtual state-within-a-state with iron-willed backers in Beijing. The Bingtuan is virtually an occupying force that behaves like a landlord across huge swathes of Xinjiang, which itself covers 1/6 of China&#039;s territory. It has a monopoly on much of Xinjiang&#039;s underground resources and money-making crops like cotton; it employs few non-Han locals, and much of what it takes out of the ground goes elsewhere, with the proceeds going to the central government, not the people of Xinjiang. And it manages much of China&#039;s gulag for political prisoners to boot. 

This is well documented in English, and in books like Wang Lixiong&#039;s &quot;My Western Realm, Your Eastern Homeland&quot; (我的西域，你的东土) which is based on his 21st century Xinjiang travels with a Uyghur friend. It is banned in China and available only in Chinese, unfortunately.

A more balanced and more informative view the next time around, please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to expect better from this column!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to report on what China puts in a given museum; it&#8217;s another to write about it at length without even mentioning how the reality on the ground contradicts the museum&#8217;s Han chauvinist and incomplete narrative. </p>
<p>The Bingtuan is nothing less than as a patriotic army of Han settlers holding down the fort in this Turkic-speaking, Muslim-dominated “Wild West,” a virtual state-within-a-state with iron-willed backers in Beijing. The Bingtuan is virtually an occupying force that behaves like a landlord across huge swathes of Xinjiang, which itself covers 1/6 of China&#8217;s territory. It has a monopoly on much of Xinjiang&#8217;s underground resources and money-making crops like cotton; it employs few non-Han locals, and much of what it takes out of the ground goes elsewhere, with the proceeds going to the central government, not the people of Xinjiang. And it manages much of China&#8217;s gulag for political prisoners to boot. </p>
<p>This is well documented in English, and in books like Wang Lixiong&#8217;s &#8220;My Western Realm, Your Eastern Homeland&#8221; (我的西域，你的东土) which is based on his 21st century Xinjiang travels with a Uyghur friend. It is banned in China and available only in Chinese, unfortunately.</p>
<p>A more balanced and more informative view the next time around, please!</p>
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